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                                |  | Our 
                                  voting system is not sufficient for the modern 
                                  world. |   
                                |  | We 
                                  can't have a Referendum on every issue. |   
                                |  | Public 
                                  opinion is poorly measured |   
                                |  | We 
                                  need to represent all interest groups. |   
                                |  | We 
                                  need our government to deal with difficult problems. |   
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                                  need our government to administer competently, 
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                        | Our 
                            voting system is not sufficient for the modern world.We need other, coordinated ways of making 
                            it clear what we all want.
 With one vote every 5 years, 
                            we are trying to achieve three different things: 
                            We are trying to select a 
                              good local representative;We are trying to select the 
                              party which will be able to select the best administrators 
                              to run the country; andWe are trying to select the 
                              best manifesto to represent what we want to happen. It is not reasonable to be trying 
                            to achieve all three things with one vote.  If we are voting for the best 
                            administrators to run the country, or even for our 
                            local representative to select the best administrators 
                            to run the country, it doesn't automatically follow 
                            that we are also voting for everything those administrators 
                            say that they want to do. We might want a bit of what 
                            this lot say, and a bit of what that lot say. We might 
                            want some other ideas, from other people or from other 
                            groups. Just because we vote for one 
                            lot - perhaps even because we think that they are 
                            the least embarassing, and that they will be the most 
                            competent administrators - that doesn't mean that 
                            we are realy passionately want them to do everything 
                            that they say they will do. That's too much. And yet, when a government is 
                            elected, it often starts saying that it has a mandate 
                            to do such-and-such a thing.  Also, remember that our first-past-the-post 
                            system means that a government with a majority of 
                            MPs might actually only have got a minority of the 
                            national vote. In 2015, the Conservative Party got 
                            a majority of MPs (331), but only got 36.9% of the 
                            national vote. [Even worse, with only 66.1% of people 
                            actually voting, that means that only 24.3% of the 
                            UK voted for the Conservative Party. That's not a 
                            mandate!] The system is not adequate for 
                            the modern world. We are all better educated and better informed that 
                            we used to be, we think more, and we care more.
 We have more to say, and we want things to work correctly 
                            for everyone.
 We should concentrate our vote 
                            on selecting a good local representative, and trust 
                            that our representative will be able to select (or 
                            even be part of) a good government. But we need another way of setting 
                            out what the manifesto for the country should be.We need another way of letting our government know 
                            what we want it to do.
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                        | We 
                            can't have a Referendum on every issue. It is a crude tool, time consuming, and expensive.
 Since the 1970s, referendums 
                            have been used on quite a few issues, from joining 
                            the European Economic Community (as it was then) to 
                            the recent Scottish Independence Referendum, and it 
                            looks as though we are soon to have another referendum 
                            on whether we should stay in the European Union. But the referendum is a very 
                            crude tool. A lot depends on how questions are phrased.
 On the whole, a government only holds a referendum 
                            when it is already pretty sure of the outcome. It 
                            is just about bolstering the strength of public support 
                            for what the government wants to do anyway.
  And holding a referendum is 
                            pretty expensive. Manning the polling stations.
 All the campaigning beforehand.
 All of us taking time to vote. Well, some of us.
 Talk Together is about achieving 
                            everything a referendum could achieve, but with a 
                            lot more detail, a lot more insight and learning - 
                            not of whatever statistics politicians might throw 
                            as us, but of what is actually the case, vetted by 
                            balanced, independent research institutions. And it's 
                            about achieving an overall manifesto of what the people 
                            actually want to happen.  (back 
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                        | Public 
                            opinion is poorly measured - Just look at opinion polls before the 2015 General 
                            Election!
 Well, we knew this before the 
                            2015 General Election. Opinion polls are not very accurate, even at simple 
                            details like which Party is going to get more votes: 
                            the Conservatives or Labour.
 Opinion Poll organisations take 
                            a sample of 1,000 people, and ask them how they plan 
                            to vote if the election were held the following day. 
                            For a start, as we saw above, only 66% of us bothered 
                            to vote anyway, so what the other 34% might tell the 
                            pollsters might be completely misleading.  And what if the pollsters don't 
                            get a representative sample of the population?It's sometimes compared to tasting a big saucepan 
                            of soup. If you take a spoon from the top, you might 
                            end up with more croutons and mushrooms, but you might 
                            miss all the lentils at the bottom.
 Having said that, public opinion 
                            is very important to our politicians. They want to 
                            get re-elected. To be fair, most of them want to do 
                            the right thing. They want to do what we want them 
                            to do. But how can they know what we want, if opinion 
                            polls are so rubbish? Our politicians can listen to 
                            lobby groups. They can listen to people in their political 
                            party. They can listen to their friends. They can 
                            read the newspapers. But they can't actually find 
                            out what we think - not all of us, together. We can do better than this, 
                            using information, inviting everyone to take part, 
                            and by sharing information, clearly, succinctly, impartially. 
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                        | Lobby 
                            groups, interest groups, pressure groups. We can't just act according to the person 
                            who shouts the loudest.
 The bulk of interest group activity 
                            in the UK is heavily tilted towards the better off 
                            end of society, and scarcely takes into account the 
                            interests of the less well off, even less of the very 
                            poor1. We can't 
                            just let the best organised or best financed or best 
                            connected interest groups exert the most pressure.  We need to represent all interest 
                            groups, not just those who are best organised, best 
                            financed, or best organised.  It's excellent that there is 
                            so much passion out there for different issues. We all benefit from the great thinking and lobbying 
                            which interest groups bring to important issues.
 And, just because you want to 
                            save the planet or the countryside, and so join Friends 
                            of the Earth or CPRE, that doesn't mean that you don't 
                            care about other things, too. But you can't do everything 
                            yourself.  So, it's great that other people 
                            are doing those things. And we need to hear from all of them.
 We need to pool our ideas and our energies.
 We need to ensure that we are all heard.
 We need to ensure that our government 
                            knows what we want to happen. (back 
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                        | The 
                            Wicked Issues : the 'too difficult' tray.  We need our government to deal 
                            with the difficult problems, too. Not just the easy ones.
 We don't just need soundbite-friendly 
                            options, driven by ensuring that ministers are re-elected. 
                              The nature of our political 
                            system is that ministers and MPs think short term 
                            - at the very most 5 years, to the next election. 
                             But many things which need doing 
                            which have a longer term impact. These are called 
                            the Wicked Issues, because they often 
                            require a bit of discomfort at first.  Like getting fit and losing 
                            weight. It's worth it, but it takes a bit of effort Ministers think that voters 
                            are not prepared to put up with a bit of short term 
                            effort, even if the long term effect is much better 
                            for the country, and for all voters1. 
                            But that's simply not true.
 In 1997, people voted for higher 
                            taxes, and for a government which would invest in 
                            the NHS, because the NHS (for all its problems, is 
                            a good thing).  We are not stupid, and we know 
                            that good things can take a bit of effort. We need to make that clear.
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                        | Ministers 
                            Decide   More generally, we need to 
                            encourage consensual, less confrontational government. 
                            Our system of government enables executive decision 
                            and action, and ministers today seem actively impelled 
                            to take action and to make news headline grabbing 
                            decisions. Simmilarly, too much of the noise made 
                            by politicians is about (party political) point scoring, 
                            not about constructive government. We mostly don't 
                            want or need this; we just need existing systems to 
                            be competently administered. Ministers are encouraged to 
                            make an impact, to make their mark. In sound bites 
                            even if not in sensible, constructive contributions. 
                            And with average ministerial tenure (<18 months) 
                            being much less than the time it takes for an initiative 
                            to be full realised, or assessed, they move on with 
                            impunity from hastily contrived catastrophe to ineffective 
                            mulch.  We need a different, quiet competence 
                            from our ministers, not this brash, rash, rush for 
                            headlines, marking their arrival like a puppy in a 
                            new garden. We need a system which encourages 
                            due deliberation, considering all the options, taking 
                            counsel, drawing on advice, considering the impact 
                            of a policy, and the assent (or at least the acquiescence) 
                            required for a policy to work. We need our politicians 
                            to take time to consider how a policy is actually 
                            to be realised.  We need to enable government 
                            to work with opposition politicians to deal with the 
                            'wicked issues' by sharing both power and electoral 
                            risk. And to do this, we need to take away the pressure 
                            for ministers to rush to have an impact by doing any 
                            old thing, by telling them what we want them to do. 
                            It's not their opportunity for a headline or for career 
                            advancement : it's our country. We need this, as a first step 
                            in increasing the respect which the public could hold 
                            for our political class.  (back 
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                          Who Governs Britain by Anthony King, Penguin 
                          Random House (2015) p90 |  |   
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